hmm interesting

by brianna121791 Monday, May 13, 2013 at 11:20AM Report as inappropriate

I'm not one to ever consider plastic surgery, but this was interesting!

by tallredamanda Sunday, May 12, 2013 at 11:12AM Report as inappropriate

cocoa butter cream can fix the appearance of bad scarring

by agape_peace Monday, April 29, 2013 at 01:09AM Report as inappropriate

I'm definitely going to list my supplements if I have any kind of surgery. That shocked me.

by Helmi Monday, April 15, 2013 at 10:42AM Report as inappropriate

I can't believe people would trust a gyno to give them Botox...that's crazy. Great article!

by MizzPink Monday, April 8, 2013 at 02:05PM Report as inappropriate

I never plan to have plastic surgery. Interesting read, though.

by unfamiliargirl Wednesday, March 13, 2013 at 12:41PM Report as inappropriate

these women look sad!

by LittleBunny Friday, February 22, 2013 at 10:03AM Report as inappropriate

I had no idea the health risks involved with these surgeries. So important to trust your surgeon!

by heather_hejna Friday, February 15, 2013 at 02:37PM Report as inappropriate

Wow.

by ACClique Tuesday, January 29, 2013 at 10:41AM Report as inappropriate

lol

by aishak55 Saturday, January 26, 2013 at 07:46PM Report as inappropriate

Important subject but very biased. The dangers involving many aesthetic procedures should be publicized including media targeting teenagers. Plastic Surgery must be performed by Plastic Surgeon. It is very true that many non-surgical MDs call themselves Surgeons only for public consumption. This includes Dermatologists who are not surgeons regardless what they may call themselves. However, what should be done with board certified Plastic Surgeons who create well known monstrosities, whether using scalpel or syringe? One must not confuse certificate and technical skills with talent. Or is it money?

by marek_kacki Friday, January 18, 2013 at 06:09PM Report as inappropriate

Good information

by EricaF123 Tuesday, December 25, 2012 at 03:15PM Report as inappropriate

I want to get a breast lift after I have all my kids but will be shopping around and researching the doctors I speak to. Going anywhere and getting surgery is so ignorant.

by Lamexicana1 Saturday, December 1, 2012 at 08:29AM Report as inappropriate

SORRY!! Obviously this is a site for Plastic Surgeons only to inject Botox. There a a lot of Nurses and other doctors that go to the same course that the plastic surgeons! They are qualified and yes they are cheaper! Don't discount the nurse that has preformed a lot of botox, I have had plastic surgeons do my Botox and it has come out awful and then had an RN that did it, she was wonderful. Don't believe everything you read! The invasive procedures like Liposuction, Breast implants yes I definately agree that a qualified plastic surgeon does the job, but please ask how many have they done? Pre and post pictures and if you can call one of their patients. Not all plastic surgeons are good, just like anyone else check there credentials! FYI most nurse's that give Botox Injections keep up on there schooling so they know what they are doing and what the new trends are! Cher

by RNCHER Friday, November 30, 2012 at 02:47PM Report as inappropriate

I really appreciate this article. Some of the advice is common sense but others things I didn't know about, like when you have lipo in one are but don't keep a healthy life style that you could gain the wieght in other areas! Craziness! Thanks for this "nitty-gritty" article.

by Nikkisuchaqt Tuesday, November 20, 2012 at 07:04PM Report as inappropriate

All the tips in this article are common sense.

by kimihavens Monday, November 5, 2012 at 04:02PM Report as inappropriate

When I was 25 I realized the perfect looking girl, was imperfections she carried and made beautiful. I had a friend who was Eurasian and she was gorgeous. She hated her bump on her nose, which made her absolutely Perfect and she became a super model in Asia. Goes to show we are our own worst critic. Oh that and some of us have experience the dirt bag ex boyfriend who like to critic our every flaw. lol Hence the word "EX"

by Lani702 Thursday, November 1, 2012 at 07:51PM Report as inappropriate

SO TRUE

by yadijane Tuesday, September 25, 2012 at 05:46PM Report as inappropriate

Its easy to focus on how great it would be to "perfect" every flaw. This is a good reminder that it is important to choose changes wisely, and not sweat the small stuff as a small fix can be a big mistake.

by skinpro Tuesday, September 25, 2012 at 01:58PM Report as inappropriate

Wasn't really considering getting plastic - I have more than enough scars - but if I ever do, I'll be sure to do my research.

by schien Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 05:07PM Report as inappropriate

This is kinda scary to read, and to think so women are actually doing some of these things. No. 6 is just terrifying. I hope whoever opts to have anything done really considers things listed from this article.

by BrookeSS Saturday, August 25, 2012 at 04:10PM Report as inappropriate

Ineteresting article. I have never done plastic surgery because I scar too easily, and the cut will make me look worse.

by Colours Saturday, August 25, 2012 at 02:26AM Report as inappropriate

went to a week long seminar with my daughter who is a lpn to know how to administer for botox and fillers. she is very very competent and out of all the people there she was hailed as a artist. when we arrived back home patients came to her to "fix what other people had botched", she was at that time the only lpn that had ever been allowed to take the courses. it was orginally for registered nurses only and subsquently she was taken to the board by a registered nurse whose was not hired and my daughter was not allowed to do this. there are not many like my daughter. she was the only one in the area with a certification. the rest of the people in just this area were only given a 1 day course by the botox people. this includes the doctors in this are. i guess that when it was all said and done she is lucky to be out of it. i do think a lot of people are hurt by the fly by night.

by joloujanetta02 Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 08:03PM Report as inappropriate

Very informative article. Makes you think twice, doesn't it?

by WiccanLady Saturday, August 4, 2012 at 02:00PM Report as inappropriate

It's definitely not as glamorous as it appears to be. Thanks for the informative article.

by muellsrus Friday, August 3, 2012 at 03:11PM Report as inappropriate

Went to a seminar on medical esthetics. Sat next to a gynecologist that thought he could open a med spa next to his practice. Also went to a womens doctors forum and found out that the female physicians felt the cash factor of offering botox etc was a great way to financially boost revenue for their practices. Some had estheticians with them, most did not. I was shocked.

by Warreen Wednesday, August 1, 2012 at 05:58AM Report as inappropriate

Yikes!!

by raquel_raygoza Wednesday, August 1, 2012 at 02:54AM Report as inappropriate

definitely a lot to take into consideration if you want something done

by voyager24 Tuesday, July 31, 2012 at 03:25PM Report as inappropriate

these look terrible!

by LittleBunny Tuesday, July 31, 2012 at 11:08AM Report as inappropriate

i always never trusted plastic surgery and know i know why ......

by Fabulouschic Thursday, July 26, 2012 at 01:32PM Report as inappropriate

Plastic surgery scare me and a lot of people end up looking worse. I don't see why most people go under the knife.

by purplecowzrule Wednesday, July 4, 2012 at 03:47PM Report as inappropriate

This article makes me think again when I'm about to dream one or more plastic curgery operation. And when I read this, I love myself again as what I am right now :))

by Dahlia84 Monday, July 2, 2012 at 05:00PM Report as inappropriate

very Interesting !!! i myself have never had surgery except for childbirth. you do get what you pay for , and in many ways that quick fix can sometimes be that Fix youll never fulfill nor correct. Some of these evasive procedures leave you scarred not only physically but emotionally and mentally. im a big fan of peels microdermabrasion eating well and exercise and positive thinking. im afraid to put something foreign in my body... because of adverse reactions and so forth, plus when im 80 what will i look like what if i go broke early and cant afford the inflation of replacement or more injections. My current self always has to think of my future self. id rather see a life coach and get chocolate then to forever change the body i was given, GOD dont make junk.

by tanje_zammiello Tuesday, May 15, 2012 at 10:22PM Report as inappropriate

you scared me

by ambreen_nadeem Sunday, May 13, 2012 at 11:54AM Report as inappropriate

i dont understand why the most prettyes woman want to ruin there looks for,there ways to stay looking young,and stress free to keep looking older

by butterfly316 Sunday, May 13, 2012 at 09:39AM Report as inappropriate

I would be so scared if i was going under the knife

by mayra_alonzo Friday, April 27, 2012 at 06:51PM Report as inappropriate

going under the knife? think hard and i mean really HARD...

by charlize_adrienne Monday, April 23, 2012 at 05:05AM Report as inappropriate

I'm glad I got a good surgeon when I had my breast reduction in 2006. I should have done the research and this article does give people some things to think about and question before going through a major surgery. I just got lucky.

by army101wife Friday, April 20, 2012 at 09:14PM Report as inappropriate

I just can't see how plastic surgery could be worth it

by LittleBunny Tuesday, April 17, 2012 at 04:12PM Report as inappropriate

interesting....

by olkrav319 Sunday, April 8, 2012 at 09:25PM Report as inappropriate

It is best to make sure that the person doing any laser treatment on you has the proper credentials and training on the machine they are using.

by beautybody Wednesday, April 4, 2012 at 08:55PM Report as inappropriate

Too many risks to make plastic surgery even an option. It MIGHT (and this is a big might) be an option for me if I just so happened to grow money in my backyard or suddenly strike it rich. Buuut. That's highly unlikely and even then I have better uses for that money. Kinda scary reading this though.

by catalinahx Tuesday, March 27, 2012 at 10:14AM Report as inappropriate

Girls today have unrealistic standards to live up to...they can't achieve these looks

by jessica_ellis Tuesday, March 27, 2012 at 06:59AM Report as inappropriate

I saw Lisa Rinna on the front page of this article. Her lips are so plump on Days of Our Lives now that she looks horrible.

by Nicole1021 Sunday, March 25, 2012 at 09:53AM Report as inappropriate

Very slippery slope-I met a woman at a party-we started talking about injections-(which I do) and I found out she went to a "MEDSPA" and had her lips injected-Well-then the nightmare began-a nerve was hit by the "Lady" giving the Botox and the mouth sagged on one side-countless surgeries later the problem was only slightly rectified-We must all do our homework when we enter the area surgery and injections.

by BlondeBabe Saturday, March 24, 2012 at 12:17PM Report as inappropriate

It is hard with surgery. You can do all of your homework and still receive a less than satisfactory result. I believe in getting nips and tucks, but just be prepared for it to possibly cost more than you originally thought.

by beautybody Thursday, March 22, 2012 at 09:48PM Report as inappropriate

Plastic surgery should not be taken lightly, it should be something one really thinks and researches about it.

by hananoire Thursday, March 22, 2012 at 11:36AM Report as inappropriate

Not something I've ever considered, but this was still fun to read about.

by tallredamanda Wednesday, March 21, 2012 at 08:21AM Report as inappropriate

I think you have to do massive research to find the best plastic surgeon for the part you want done. I think you should "interview" multiple qualified doctors and then choose. I have not had, or will I ever, have plastic surgery, and I think even famous people don't do enough research before undergoing major surgery. Scary!

by powerwoman033 Monday, March 12, 2012 at 09:46AM Report as inappropriate

Those wanting to go plastic, watch out!

by heartMashimaro Monday, March 5, 2012 at 03:30AM Report as inappropriate

You repeated several of the items in your list. It is more like 7 mistakes. Shame on you totalbeauty.

by kamcombs Sunday, March 4, 2012 at 06:55AM Report as inappropriate

scary!

by Alisunshine Wednesday, February 29, 2012 at 10:19AM Report as inappropriate

its all about finding the right doctor, I will put quality over the price if i ever consider getting something done.

by Lilli_rose Monday, February 27, 2012 at 12:31AM Report as inappropriate

I had a nose job and it was one of the best decisions I ever made. Fortunately, everything went well. I paid good money for a good doctor referred to me by a close friend.

by poisonberry Tuesday, February 21, 2012 at 12:36PM Report as inappropriate

with any surgery anything can go wrong,i'm 47 i have not have any botox done or plastic , i used cream to prevent from aging, maybe when i turn 55 i might get botox done

by nikkiq Friday, February 17, 2012 at 07:17PM Report as inappropriate

There are safer, healthier alternatives out there that don't mess you up...contact me if you want to know what I did.

by melissa_c Friday, February 17, 2012 at 11:16AM Report as inappropriate

Although there are tons of risks, as highlighted by this article, I still want a tummy tuck, and lipo on my knees. But, I guess I'm glad that I can't afford it right now!

by queeniemeanie Friday, February 10, 2012 at 09:29AM Report as inappropriate

Wow. After turning 40, I considered Botox injections. I'm glad I read about all the other things that could go wrong with cosmetic procedures. Good to know. And I'm forgoing the Botox.

by ivorysnowgirl Friday, February 10, 2012 at 06:57AM Report as inappropriate

plastic surgens rock

by darksecret Wednesday, February 8, 2012 at 09:04AM Report as inappropriate

Ever since watching the show NIp/Tuck I changed my mind about plastic surgery. Before, I was thinking that in the future (like forty years, lol), I would maybe do something to appear younger and/or prettier. But that show changed my mind. Oh boy. Things people go through in the name of beauty. Thank you but no thank you.

by yestfl Friday, February 3, 2012 at 07:54PM Report as inappropriate

People often equate love and acceptance with beauty... often personal relationships that are poor contribute to the person's need to fix themselves. Sometimes who we spend our time with can affect how we see ourselves. Change our environment, keep ourselves from unneccessary improvement!

by TKC Sunday, January 29, 2012 at 06:19AM Report as inappropriate

Cosmetic and Aesthetic surgeries aren't always chosen just for vanity. Many women undergo mastectomies because of cancer, breast reductions because of back problems, and reconstructive surgeries after other cancers, accidents, etcetera. It saddens me to read so many thoughtless and judgmental comments from women who have never been in those positions, and hopefully never will. These are all legitimate issues that women must be aware of, regardless of the reasons different people seek out surgical procedures. And if a women wants to maintain her appearance, so what?!?

by Maggie_MM Friday, January 27, 2012 at 08:08PM Report as inappropriate

At 60 I was looking an old 70 and hated it. I did my homework and found a very experienced plastic surgeon at a large hospital in Bangkok Thailand. He had 13 years of experience, done thousands of procedures and was even rated highly for complex sex change operations. The hospital was clean, efficcient with new equipment. so I went ahead with a lower face and eye lift. Before surgery I became worried that they would do a mix up and I would come out as a 60 year old ladyboy with great breasts and no face lift. Well things went fine, the staff was friendly, spoke English and they had someone from the computer dept. come to my room and help with the wifi set up. The cost was about 25% of the US and 5 years on I'm still very satisified with the results. The food was decent and you could get a massage therapist from the physical therapy department come to your room for a massage for only $6. If I had it to do over(no need) I would request to have from the beauty department, which is attached to plastic surgery dept for lesser procedures, send one or two of the models that work there over to my room to hold my hand and quiet my fears. I didn't think of this till later. That's my story.

by GaryLK Saturday, January 21, 2012 at 12:05PM Report as inappropriate

these is why we have to be happy with what god gave us and say no to plastic surgery!

by DianaR. Tuesday, January 10, 2012 at 04:20PM Report as inappropriate

There's one they left out. Black Market Plastic surgery. Where people know they're getting procedures done by fake or unlicensed doctors. in order to save on cost. Happens a lot in other countries. and here too. There's also the Absolutely fake doctors, who open up fake clinics and use fraudulent credentials. Not even tried in anyway shape or form to assist a doctor themselves. It seems like these fake doctors are targeting people who want boob or butt implants because it seems simple to them. just stick a bag fill with liquid into a body part. And also lipo. Just stick a suction device in and suck out anything. People are dying because of vanity.

by Minibear Friday, January 6, 2012 at 01:08PM Report as inappropriate

This makes me even more determined to never get plastic surgery!

by sportimonki13 Friday, December 30, 2011 at 12:38AM Report as inappropriate

Plastic surgery is very expensive in the first place. I wouldn't want to risk my body for it :(

by Sprinklesugars Monday, December 26, 2011 at 05:37PM Report as inappropriate

I wouldn't say no to it

by Only1KimmieD Thursday, December 22, 2011 at 10:49AM Report as inappropriate

I don't think I'll ever get a plastic surgery but I don't judge people who do, sometimes it could be an important improvement in your life. Beauty is very important to me, but I'm not trying to be perfect and I think there are more important reasons to go under the knife than bigger breasts or slimmer body. Plastic surgeries used to be only for people who had accident or some serious defect that affected their life and health. Now it's an obsession, mostly caused by "perfect" celebrities and pressure put on us to look great. People often forget that any surgery is dangerous, painful and the effect could be unpredictable... and there's always something to improve! We should love ourselves the way we are. Would you advise your friend to get a surgery? Treat yourself like your best friend, we're too harsh on ourselves.

by patricia89 Tuesday, December 20, 2011 at 04:51AM Report as inappropriate

I would really avoid plastic surgery at all costs!

by MissXu Wednesday, December 14, 2011 at 09:20PM Report as inappropriate

There is nothing wrong with getting plastic surgery, just make sure it is the right decision for you.

by tinkerbella26 Wednesday, December 14, 2011 at 07:43PM Report as inappropriate

This is really important information, thank you. I don't think I'll ever get plastic surgery anyway, but this article made me even more sure.

by LittleBunny Tuesday, December 13, 2011 at 09:49PM Report as inappropriate

Great article. I needed this 7 years ago when I had my nose done. I had a bad noae job done by that plastic surgeon on the show "The Doctors". Turns out he was from back east ,New York I think and sued for mal pratice. By the time I figured that out I had already had the surgery with my noae collapsed on one side. So all I can say is definitly do ur Research. Don't trust someone just cause their on tv.

by freeme1 Tuesday, December 13, 2011 at 07:53PM Report as inappropriate

I don't think I'll ever get plastic surgery.

by kmb1129 Tuesday, December 13, 2011 at 04:54PM Report as inappropriate

I see many people don't approve the plastic surgery. I was thinking the same way untill 5 years ago when people started asking me what is wrong with me. Why do I look so tired, am I OK. Or just telling me "you don't look good". Then I decided to have blepharoplasty and I'm very happy with the results. I'm getting compliments all the time (I'm 50)

by ankova Tuesday, December 13, 2011 at 11:24AM Report as inappropriate

As the saying goes: "If I only knew then what I know now!" This ring true for me as I had ance/blemished skin from my mid-teens in to my 30's. I started seeing a Holistic Esthetician around 20ish. She helped me a great deal since then. Now, I've further educated myself by reading books, internet research, and finally became heavily interested in using essential oils/aromatherapy. This information was very helpful, too!

by Redbird1214 Monday, December 12, 2011 at 12:11AM Report as inappropriate

Wow. Thanks for pointing this out! So many people don't realize how dangerous cosmetic surgery can be. Surgery is not the only risk...there is also the anesthetic risk, especially if it's a general. Everyone has good qualities and flaws, thats part of being human What a boring world it would be if we were all perfect!

by Lori.K Monday, November 14, 2011 at 09:51AM Report as inappropriate

TOO SCARED TO GO UNDER THE KNIFE, IM TRYING FACIAL YOGA!! Go to you-tube!

by Vnessa Tuesday, November 8, 2011 at 02:28PM Report as inappropriate

Definitely happy I did my research. Taking the time to make sure you know what your getting yourself into is completely worth it in the end.

by msbrown822 Tuesday, November 1, 2011 at 07:46PM Report as inappropriate

why mess with mother nature, stay natural.

by shar_r Thursday, October 27, 2011 at 03:05PM Report as inappropriate

Great to know.

by Victorywriter Monday, October 24, 2011 at 03:59PM Report as inappropriate

Very important advice for anyone seeking surgery. You should always do your research before you do something drastic to change yourself.

by taryn.romero Friday, October 14, 2011 at 07:24AM Report as inappropriate

I did go cheaper for some Botox. My right eye looked like I'd had a stroke. This 'Dr.' was also a dentist. Not the smartest choice I've ever made.

by imdbtoo Wednesday, October 12, 2011 at 04:42PM Report as inappropriate

Maybe people should just learn how to age gracefully or embrace their unique qualities instead of asking others to inject what they think is a new ego into them.

by 125389 Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 01:31PM Report as inappropriate

If you are going to get plastic surgery do your research and do not be cheap its definitely something you should not try to find a good sale on.

by stephgal Tuesday, September 13, 2011 at 08:40PM Report as inappropriate

omg they look like a bad-drawn-cartoon... poor girls

by gisellemarie Monday, September 12, 2011 at 01:36PM Report as inappropriate

Yikes I will never get plastic surgery

by LittleBunny Sunday, September 11, 2011 at 08:44PM Report as inappropriate

The article was very informative. Thank you.

by NJsandpiper Tuesday, August 30, 2011 at 12:19PM Report as inappropriate

Anyone else exhausted with brighter-than-the-sun bleached teeth? Talk about unnatural ....

by islands4me Sunday, August 28, 2011 at 04:52PM Report as inappropriate

Why don't people just be themselves? I would rather someone talk about the natural me than an obviously fake me. Rare is the individual who has had plastic surgery that does not appear so. Only people who have had severe deformity, whether through birth defect, disease or injury, should have plastic surgery. Great article.

by benbri1 Thursday, August 25, 2011 at 06:53PM Report as inappropriate

I remember when we were visiting my mother's birth State, and her friend came over with a scar on her face. Everyone was saying it was a botched plastic surgery. At that time, a lot of Asians were getting their lids done, and I can't remember the place, but the other friends would know a difference in the face.

by evet Wednesday, August 24, 2011 at 07:55PM Report as inappropriate

Picture #9 is Courtney Love????????????????????????

by deborah_priceschrowang Wednesday, August 24, 2011 at 02:44PM Report as inappropriate

Everyone should be responsible and get informed before subjecting your body or health to anything. You are worth it!!! Ask questions. Great article.

by Thorne Wednesday, August 24, 2011 at 01:50PM Report as inappropriate

Editors, you are too much! : ) Good to know this information. Rarely, do I think the plastic surgery practiced in LA is an improvement.

by haillos Wednesday, August 24, 2011 at 01:24PM Report as inappropriate

Very Very informative. Should make every woman, young and old think twice!

by jeriA Wednesday, August 24, 2011 at 01:16PM Report as inappropriate

I had no idea about scars! I had really thought it depended on the surgeon's skill.

by voyager24 Wednesday, August 24, 2011 at 01:01PM Report as inappropriate

Some bargain doctor has come to my town offering cheap boob jobs and I have a couple friends lined up to do it, and I think its absolutely nuts. Its surgery people! I would gladly spend more than what I think is fair to ensure I get the look I want.

by ladyboarder9669 Wednesday, August 24, 2011 at 12:54PM Report as inappropriate

freaky stuff

by modinosaur Monday, August 15, 2011 at 11:35PM Report as inappropriate

ew!!

by Bon_Bon Monday, August 15, 2011 at 09:20PM Report as inappropriate

Get more than one source for this article! Poor jounalism. A plasic surgeon is biased...he is not telling the entire truth and offering opinion as fact in some cases. Writer shoud've included documented studies and specific facts.

by trecedemayo Friday, August 12, 2011 at 01:16PM Report as inappropriate

Wow! Love's nose looks awful!

by stacypetersson Wednesday, August 10, 2011 at 06:49PM Report as inappropriate

This is extremely scary. I don't think I can't do this even knowing my body is not in shape, I rather just exercise it off.

by peonyinlove Wednesday, August 10, 2011 at 06:09AM Report as inappropriate

I can't imagine going through the pain and a lot of times it can go wrong. It's scary!

by peonyinlove Wednesday, August 10, 2011 at 05:46AM Report as inappropriate

Eek... these are scary mistakes! I, personally, don't think plastic surgery is worth the what ifs

by Beautyrae Tuesday, August 9, 2011 at 05:22PM Report as inappropriate

While it may be tempting for people to get lipo as a "quick fix", the best idea is to follow a long-term diet & exercise plan. In the long run, it will give you more permanent results, not to mention that its safer and will give you a more natural end look. The idea of waking up thinner overnight is a bit of an overly-optimistic goal, not to mention that many people tend to forget about the recovery/down-time associated with liposuction. There was an interview with Heidi Montag, the former Hills' star who got multiple procedures done, and in an interview she even stated that she regrets having so much work done, and that she has permanent scars as a result.

by Kamala_Kirk Tuesday, August 9, 2011 at 05:12PM Report as inappropriate

Another mistake is not realizing that certain surgery is a lifetime investment. A former friend of mine had breast implants at 18. At 19 one erupted in a car accident, and she had to have them redone. She then went too large and one of the implants stretched out the skin, making her nipple large and dragging the breast down. She had to have a breast lift and skin graph to regrow the tissue, and all these by age 23.

by olga_cirlugea Tuesday, August 9, 2011 at 05:08PM Report as inappropriate

Great article! I really enjoyed reading this!

by volta Tuesday, August 9, 2011 at 04:58PM Report as inappropriate

A really great way to warn people to be very, very careful of what they get done and especially by whom!

by Tauria515 Tuesday, August 9, 2011 at 03:18PM Report as inappropriate